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The #1 AI nerd: how your business runs on autopilot

60 minutes

Podcast

Yellow Flower
Jonathan van de Geer

UX & AI Builder

Jonathan van de Geer

UX & AI Builder

Agentic AI: The Next Big Step

According to Danny, we are on the brink of a revolution in how we work with AI. "Agentic AI is actually not very different from when you talk to a GPT interface," he explains. "It's just that these agents are instructed to behave autonomously, and they have access to a lot of different tools."

The difference lies in the autonomy and collaboration. These AI agents can:

  • Make decisions independently

  • Utilize various tools

  • Collaborate to perform complex tasks

  • Operate autonomously for longer periods (from several minutes to hours)

Danny de Kruijk is co-founder of Sero and one of the biggest AI nerds in the Netherlands. With his background at startups like Orderchamp and years of experience in AI development, he helps entrepreneurs transform their businesses using the latest AI technologies.


The five phases of AI development according to OpenAI

Danny outlines OpenAI's roadmap to AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) in five phases:

  1. Chatbot phase - Already checked off with ChatGPT

  2. Reasoning phase - AI that thinks before responding (breakthrough expected by end of 2023)

  3. Agent phase - Where we are now, not yet fully checked off

  4. Innovator phase - Recently reached with breakthroughs like Google's mathematical solutions

  5. God mode/Business logic phase - Complete autonomous organization management (expected around 2031)


The impact on the labor market

Danny is honest about the consequences: "The honest story is I think just that you will have a lot of people who currently - that mainly involves people in white collar jobs - that will not be there anymore first."

But there are also opportunities: "People will really stand in line for you if you can actually help companies as a kind of AI expert to automate processes."

New roles are emerging

  • AI Orchestrators: People who set up and monitor AI workflows

  • Hybrid experts: Specialists who combine their expertise with AI tools

  • Automation specialists: Those who convert processes into AI workflows


Practical AI applications that are already working

E-commerce revolution

One of the most impressive examples that Danny mentions is a gaming company with 180,000 products: "They really have things from the PlayStation 2 in their assortment for the fans. Yes, those are texts. It doesn’t look good, but there is no one left who is going to spend even one second on that."

With AI, they can now optimize all 180,000 product texts - something that was previously unimaginable.

Personalized content

Danny talks about a travel agency case: "If you go on a trip to Prague with your girlfriend, you get a really nice romantic Prague text. Then you go with your soccer club - it’s cheap drinking and very little money." The result? 20% CTR increase.


Practical tips for entrepreneurs

1. Start experimenting now

"You are here now, you have 3-5 years left. It all sounds very fast, but you still have time to really make a difference."

2. Choose the right tools

For workflow automation, Danny recommends N8N over Make.com: "N8N is, in my opinion, really already more powerful than make.com and much cheaper."

3. Focus on bulk processes

Think of tasks such as:

  • Bulk content optimization

  • Automated social media planning

  • Bulk product descriptions

  • Personalized email campaigns


The future of SaaS and software

Danny predicts a major shift: "If a company then needs to optimize a certain process... then you can research the market, and then there will be a tool coming out that does 80% of what you want and 20% not. But you can also have it made to measure soon."

This means that many current SaaS companies will need to reconsider their reasons for existence.

Safety and data privacy

Although Danny is optimistic about AI developments, he acknowledges the challenges around data safety. His advice: "You shouldn’t just throw your stuff everywhere," but choose reliable platforms with good privacy settings.

The message for entrepreneurs

Danny's main advice is clear: "Don't overestimate yourself, but also especially don't underestimate yourself. And especially get to work with AI. Because no problem you will encounter will be too difficult to solve if you just embrace all those agents and things like that yourself."

Danny de Kruijk is co-founder of Sero and one of the biggest AI nerds in the Netherlands. With his background at startups like Orderchamp and years of experience in AI development, he helps entrepreneurs transform their businesses using the latest AI technologies.


The five phases of AI development according to OpenAI

Danny outlines OpenAI's roadmap to AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) in five phases:

  1. Chatbot phase - Already checked off with ChatGPT

  2. Reasoning phase - AI that thinks before responding (breakthrough expected by end of 2023)

  3. Agent phase - Where we are now, not yet fully checked off

  4. Innovator phase - Recently reached with breakthroughs like Google's mathematical solutions

  5. God mode/Business logic phase - Complete autonomous organization management (expected around 2031)


The impact on the labor market

Danny is honest about the consequences: "The honest story is I think just that you will have a lot of people who currently - that mainly involves people in white collar jobs - that will not be there anymore first."

But there are also opportunities: "People will really stand in line for you if you can actually help companies as a kind of AI expert to automate processes."

New roles are emerging

  • AI Orchestrators: People who set up and monitor AI workflows

  • Hybrid experts: Specialists who combine their expertise with AI tools

  • Automation specialists: Those who convert processes into AI workflows


Practical AI applications that are already working

E-commerce revolution

One of the most impressive examples that Danny mentions is a gaming company with 180,000 products: "They really have things from the PlayStation 2 in their assortment for the fans. Yes, those are texts. It doesn’t look good, but there is no one left who is going to spend even one second on that."

With AI, they can now optimize all 180,000 product texts - something that was previously unimaginable.

Personalized content

Danny talks about a travel agency case: "If you go on a trip to Prague with your girlfriend, you get a really nice romantic Prague text. Then you go with your soccer club - it’s cheap drinking and very little money." The result? 20% CTR increase.


Practical tips for entrepreneurs

1. Start experimenting now

"You are here now, you have 3-5 years left. It all sounds very fast, but you still have time to really make a difference."

2. Choose the right tools

For workflow automation, Danny recommends N8N over Make.com: "N8N is, in my opinion, really already more powerful than make.com and much cheaper."

3. Focus on bulk processes

Think of tasks such as:

  • Bulk content optimization

  • Automated social media planning

  • Bulk product descriptions

  • Personalized email campaigns


The future of SaaS and software

Danny predicts a major shift: "If a company then needs to optimize a certain process... then you can research the market, and then there will be a tool coming out that does 80% of what you want and 20% not. But you can also have it made to measure soon."

This means that many current SaaS companies will need to reconsider their reasons for existence.

Safety and data privacy

Although Danny is optimistic about AI developments, he acknowledges the challenges around data safety. His advice: "You shouldn’t just throw your stuff everywhere," but choose reliable platforms with good privacy settings.

The message for entrepreneurs

Danny's main advice is clear: "Don't overestimate yourself, but also especially don't underestimate yourself. And especially get to work with AI. Because no problem you will encounter will be too difficult to solve if you just embrace all those agents and things like that yourself."

The message for entrepreneurs

Danny's most important advice is clear:

"Don't overestimate yourself, but above all, don't underestimate yourself. And especially get very much to work with AI. Because no problem you will encounter in the future will be too difficult to solve if you just embrace all those agents and things yourself."

Conclusion: Become a 'super entrepreneur'

The AI revolution is no longer just a thing of the future - it is happening now. Entrepreneurs who invest in AI knowledge and tools now can develop into what Danny calls a 'super entrepreneur'. The question is not whether AI will change your business, but when you will embrace that change.

The full podcast with Danny de Kruijk can be listened to via Groeivoer. Want to know more about AI tools for your business? Then check out Sero's possibilities - the AI tool that has already helped thousands of entrepreneurs automate their content and processes.

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